I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. A magnifying glass. This is for prior service and new applicants. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. The largest military subreddit on reddit. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Just something to think of. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. She went to the SGTs and the Chaplin professing that she lied at MEPs. Privacy Policy. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. You need to disclose it. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . Lying will. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. Hopefully by then youll be completely withdrawn from your meds. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. So we met a few days later and met his shadow that will be taking his place and filled out all the medical paperwork. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. Messages. Alright, you've got me interested. You're still not getting it. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. No personally identifying information (PII). In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. Nice guy and not pushy. Any advice? For more information, please see our For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. I was in the same spot. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. PERIOD. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. Doctors said I had asthma growing up, my recruiter said don't mention it, he was probably jumping to conclusions. You must log in or register to reply here. When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? However, herein lies the problem. He. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. Below are abstractions of a true stories. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). Disclose EVERYTHING. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. Okay, so I need some advice. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. Texted him asking if he got the paperwork and he said he did (at this point I knew a commander came in and talk to the two and now I know he is pissed). He hadn't told them he had lasik. 73. However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. If you do tell the truth about the surgery and wait 6 months for the lasik, you will probably still be able to get a contract, but you will have to go through a bunch of unnecessary shit. He told them. Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. I had the surgery in august of 2014. Option 2: Lie. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Recruits who pass their physical and have no prior history may be accepted because the military does not routinely pull medical information. So what should I do: should I call him and polk the bear? Should I lie at MEPS and if so will I likely get caught? We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Make it impossible to lie? These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. 48.8K. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. if the issue will not comprise your ability to serve in your unit and MOS, keep your mouth shut.. What about me? What is the biggest lie you have ever told or been told, The following errors occurred with your submission. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. It may not display this or other websites correctly. She got counseling for the suicide gesture and related stress, which eventually resolved, and she again received more counseling for anger management a few years later (this was what the BMT medics discovered). Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". That's just the way it happens. Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. a) Check our wiki b) Run a search c) Post your question with a *clear and specific title*, Press J to jump to the feed. Am I? Shoulda been a dishonorable. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. She joined the army and just before graduating AIT she decided the Army wasn't for her (I told her not to do it, but did she listen? By logging into your account, you agree to our. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. Any help would be appreciated. After about 2 months on the medication, he discovered that the side-effects of the medicine were worse than his symptoms and stopped taking it. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? Good luck to you. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . Press J to jump to the feed. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. LASIK Surgery Checklist. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Now I've been referred to behavioral health for depression. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Because the military does not. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . Never saw him again. The flap is then placed back into its original position. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. Do not encourage lying. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. So I handed all of my medical and education records that he said to not worry about to the recruiter. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. I lied at meps . You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. They may lie about behaviors, charges, and other possible information that could disqualify them from enlisting in the military. I played my "sax" a lot in basic. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. See Article 83 UCMJ. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? Wait 1-3 years off the medication. First, psychiatrists, psychologists, and sometimes doctors might not directly tell their patients their actual diagnoses because of the stigma and fear surrounding Mental Health. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). So what are the lessons from these stories? This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). JavaScript is disabled. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. and our I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. Press J to jump to the feed. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. It happened to be depression and medication for it. . MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. Lied at meps now need TS clearance - ClearanceJobs Blog And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. Know what makes you a poor candidate. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. What should I do if MEPS continues to request medical records that don't exist? SSG Sean Donahue - Though your verbiage is way bolder than mine (my post on this issue is above) I fully agree with you!!!! The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. What should I do. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. Here is the Press Release. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. Anyone with any experience or advice? (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). HELP!!!! Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. The most popular bodybuilding message boards! What is the worst that can happen? No. (Navy). My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. If you are 100% sure that both are non-issues and you can perform without them holding you back, then just don't mention it. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. 1. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. Never got caught. Is there a glaucoma suspect trait i should be wary of, are there any other eye traits that would require further testing. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. Know how to find the right doctor. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. uuugh, it was hot. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. lie at MEPS? Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. Take the advice and think on it. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. Details '' of what happened and will move on to the next morning and everything was normal until medical.! # x27 ; s job a year ago and this post, you to. And Trade your Firearms and Gear a couple of years or was this... Bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be the... Think the lesson here is not to lie believed his own history was of?! Care down the road will move on to the recruiter and MEPS will ask you -- answer them as are! Use there would n't be a soldier could not live with come up with the action are you! 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