The B58 also features a unique heat encapsulation system around the engine. To cut right to the chase, I love the direction the BMW B58 is going. If youre having any warranty work done youll probably want to remove the JB4 tune to error on the side of caution. Most B58 owners will have a trouble-free ownership experience and spend less on maintenance than if you were driving a N55-powered BMW. The B58 is a great engine, but the S55 is better. Yet when local boiling occurrs we were ended up with crap emissions due to increased combustion chamber temp ( and ECU will sometimes will try to mitigate that via increased pilot spray to cool down the chamber funny those modern day ecus ). Solenoids are relatively inexpensive and easy to replace. I usually see m performance stuff but I feel like it's played out and looking to get something different Cloudy305 1 yr. ago Hi the B58 is not the same engine as M4 M4 is S55. AND BTW, I dont know whenever new caps will fix anything. Car done 150k now, and pipes that I replaced are still right colour, original coolant pump still works OK and I have zero issues with overheating and coolant temp when idle fluctuates at 110 117 C. From what Ive seen at the dyno where some inexperienced or know better then the test schedule requirements technician used pure water for cooling on endurance or long term emission tests, cooling pump seals and joint between shaft and plastic prop would fail first but on my car it was not the case so far, so as usual T&C applies, your milage may vary. Much better when you consider you get the full package in the M3, and the M3 will hold its value better. The B58 replaced the N55 and was launched in the F30 340i.. Well, I have N54 running 550whp on td04s. Conclusion. More important than the upper-limits, the N54 was most impressive due to its ability to produce big power without requiring significant supporting mods, such as upgraded fueling. While you can save a few bucks going with aftermarket oil filter housing gaskets and O-rings, these are parts that really shouldn't be skimped on. Copyright 2021 - 2023 BMW Tuning LLC. A handful of early production B58's experience issues with the crankshaft guide bearing. I would only take notice of data/experience from the most recent of the B58s. Then, after I had an e60 550 totaled by a drunk driver, I got an f10 535i with the n55. Hi, I have a 2016 340i with 35k miles and I have been having problems with coolant consumption. As mentioned, this shouldn't be a huge deal in most cases. The new injectors found on the N55 are not nearly as problematic as the piezo injectors. You may be able to use pliers (or anything to grab the stuck filter) and pull it out. Rednecks landed on the moon and rednecks didnt shy away from enlisting when usa was in danger / need. This engine was manufactured by BMW in 2015 and was still in use. Soooo if you have some noise under load best record it from engine bay. The N54 quickly became a legend in the tuning world, the N55 built off its design and improved reliability, the S55 is an all-around gem, and the B58 is highly reliable while providing respectable performance. Second, last night I purchased a 2017 340 with 30k. VANOS is BMW's terminology for VVT, or variable valve timing. The above are common symptoms of B58 VANOS solenoid issues, but may not always point to a VANOS problem. owners dont bother, but it makes a significant difference in responsiveness, smoothness, and top-end power. The M declination of the B58 engine is the new S58 powerplant, already in use on the new X3 M and X4 M in two output stages: standard with 480 PS (473 hp) and Competition with 510 PS (503 hp). Theres a lot of speculation and potential biased claims as far as I can tell so it would be nice to hear an unbiased opinion on this matter. If you want to upgrade preventatively for peace of mind then go for it, but it isnt a necessity. Everyone and their brother has done the LS swap and its become boring. Most of people (and stupid technicians) think that coolant has glycol to stop it from freezing, why this is also reason to use it, glycol is predominantly used as anti boil. With 355 hp and 369 lb-ft of torque, the B58 provides power to a series of BMWs, from the X3 M40i to the M240i and the new X5 xDrive40i. My question is what are the running costs for them (a ballpark mainly). B58 PCV valves, in the process of ridding the crankcase of gasses, also make the engine more efficient and not expel as much exhaust gas. One of our N54s went 113,000 miles before its first walnut blast. Our 440i is about 5 months old and has a little over 6000 Km. That being said, there are a lot of bad engines out there! Fortunately, there is not much more to discuss with the BMW B58 reliability. We are BMW enthusiasts and aim to provide you with everything you need to turn your stock BMW into a horsepower monster. The BMW B58 engine is a turbo 3.0L inline-6 that was first introduced to BMW models in 2016. If so, thats impressive. There are a few notorious issues in the N55. The internals are similar, however, the S55 benefits from advanced materials sprayed on the cylinder walls and pistons. We've seen some VANOS problems with the B58 engine. Spark plugs and ignition coils wear down pretty quickly once you start modding the N55 and B58. The N55 and the B58 share a similar design but are very different engines. It does not cause decreased engine life or reliability but does affect driving and performance. Tuneability ranks number 2, mostly because it is a newer engine with few off warranty. 2015 335i 4 series coupe has been a great auto. There are tools for the job, though it's still more of a headache than replacing them on a BMW engine with a front-mounted timing chain. Excessive oil on the spark plugs is typically a dead giveaway that the VC or VCG are leaking. For that reason, the B58 scores the worst value rating. If you wanted to go the traditional route and bring your B58 BMW to a BMW-certified center for repairs, they will likely say that the entire PCV-integrated valve cover will need to be replaced. ps. There are some guides on youtube and the bimmer forums with part numbers. Your email address will not be published. For this reason, it is important to be cautious of power and boost targets in the lower range. Ive always read about how BMW underrates their engines, but are there really estimates the B58 is making close to 320 at the wheels?! One dependable BMW engine, the N52 inline-6 featured in the E90 325i, 328i, and 330i, has already been covered in detail. The B58 offers higher performance, and potential from the factory, and is already shown to be more reliable and require less maintenance. In normal condition like drawing to grocery and not even touching accelerator, you will never see this happening, but when doing hard acceleration because you want to get out of dodge, negotiate out of slip road and you need to rapidly gain 40mph, just having fun perhaps look for a used Audi 4 wheel drive convertible. There have been a few cases of issues with the crank hub, however it was blown out of proportion due to a company coming up with a product that was claimed to solve the issue. ?Any accuracy in this? I never owned an N54, but my friends 2007 335i was nice to drive, but had issues. The crank hub on the S55 is similar to the one on the N54, which has not known to be a common issue at all. Hopefully, it's not as bad as the below image. An S55 powered M3 can be found for roughly $10,000 more than a B58 car. Someone knows what is due? The BMW B58 engine can handle around 600-650whp and 550-600wtq on the stock block and internals. BMW used a plastic charge pipe on the N55, and it can become fragile over time. That got lemoned (hpfp issues). Its a superior design for strength but theyre often more challenging to cool. Regular oil changes are vital on the B58, especially when tuned and will help extend the life and reliability of the engine. Ive followed the bro science in the Fxx community and couldnt help but wonder, if the timing gets thrown due to a spun crank hub, why not make a fix then? Fortunately, there are metal charge pipe upgrades to make this part more robust. It . Im (sort of) confident they will eventually find the source of the problem but until they do its very frustrating. Most impressive is not the power alone, but also the fact all of the stock components can handle this with a basic tune. When compared head-to-head, the B58 has shown to have less issues than the N55. It is more of a testament to just how good the two remaining engines are. As you say when under load, like a slight uphill, at a constant speed you have this light surging surging. Last replaced plugs and coils at 190K. Still a sound improvement for the B58. Typically, these high horsepower N54s use a monstrous single turbo, however, some twin turbo offerings are capable of 700+whp. However, it can be hard to catch with this symptom alone, as the B58 also has other oil consumption issues. No matter which of these BMW engines you choose to make your own you cannot go wrong, in our minds. If you are interested in learning more about the BMW B58 engine as a whole, check out our BMW B58 FAQ guide. Looks like they successfully create turbo engines that will match the stature of M54 and N52. [/QUOTE]. Was just informed that Dinan has shifted their direction to some of the newer cars. Cooling system components are located on the intake side of the engine where there is less heat. This is a misconception. The B58 timing chain was moved to the rear of the engine. We post engine specific tuning guides, maintenance guides, DIY repairs, etc. Stock Power: ~330hpWorld Record HP: 655WHPDisplacement: 2998cc (2.998L)Turbocharger: Single Twin Power TurboCompression: 11.0 to 1Bore x Stroke: 82.0mm x 94.6mm (3.23in x 3.72in)Internals: Forged crank and rods. This is my first BMW and Im coming from a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3, which Ive been driving for the last 7 years. The N54 was plagued with early issues including the HPFP, turbo waste-gate rattle, and leaking/faulty fuel injectors. ansolutely thrilled. It can trap heat for up to roughly 36 hours. Acnam Infotech, BMW Tuning - BMW Performance & Tuning Guides, News, Videos. Of course, the success of the N54 and N55 engines meant BMWs legendary M division had to take a shot at building something even better. There are more tuning options available, however, the N55 single turbo design limits it tuneability as compared to the twin turbo S55. Of course, we are biased towards BMWs here at BMWtuning.co, but we fell in love with these modern turbo BMW engines for a reason. 49 32 comments Best Add a Comment ijustbrushalot 8 mo. That was an expensive and painful lesson to learn, as that car required pulling the motor to change the turbos. Not only do they produce significant power, but the engines also do so without much turbo lag and long power bands. Really appreciate the info. You should replace the B58 oil filter with every oil change, anyways. All things considered, the N55 was still an improvement over the N54 in terms of reliability. Of the engines referenced in this post Toyota is only using the B58. Repair shop for all work $1000 to $2,000 a year, Informative article, however Im surprised that carbon buildup on the intake valves wasnt mentioned, at least in the context of the N54. Yes Im in the UK John. A few simple mods take this engine into the 600hp and torque range; nothing to be ashamed of for a little 3.0L inline-6. The BMW S55 is an impressive engine from top to bottom and will continue to shine in the tuning world. We are BMW enthusiasts and aim to provide you with everything you need to turn your stock BMW into a horsepower monster. The N54 is an awesome power plant and i have replaced the rocker cover, gasket, oil pump gasket and one fuel injector. TuningPro.co is owned and operated by 8020 Media. However, you may make it well past without issues. Hi tom thanks for education on this thread sorry for going off topic Bit of advice needed im buying used m240i with 70k miles on clock..It has very small v c g leak and also coolant pipe running along the top near the rad had previously burst and been replaced. Ill try to describe what I suspect as a secondary issue. After numerous visits to my local bmw dealer, it got a new engine. Any input apreciated. Deposits can cause misfires and power loss. These leaks commonly develop around 70,000 to 100,000 miles. (4.2 l)My '06 TJ has the 4.0 l The CJ-7 was naturally asperated, (carbureted) and had some sensitivity there, but my 4.0 l is fuel injected and has been rock solid! Currently stock on stage 1. Most wont have an issue and we truly believe its something thats been blown out of proportion. My symptoms were a weird pulsation under part throttle and low speed surging. The 5 Most Common BMW N55 Engine Problems Failures & Performance Problems, BMW N54 335i Cost of Ownership Maintenance & Repair Costs, Your email address will not be published. Engines now are far more reliable than in the past. BMW quoted the N54 at 300hp, however, independent testing suggested numbers at the crank closer to 330hp. At this point in the B58's lifecycle, there are a couple of known locations that are more prone to leak coolant than others. Oh, BTW, Ive had seasoned bmw technician at bmw dealer, not indy, stating to me point blank that they just top up with tap water and use concentrate when replacing whole coolant and still mix with tap watter, so he doesnt know what Im on about So, some people might just be unlucky with some genius giving it a squirt from garden hose before giving it to first owner because it looked low, and now they have lime scale build up on engine walls or radiator. It is a turbocharged straight-six engine. Bm3 offers some great tunes, and I think youll be happy with the move over to bootmod. Thanks for the great read. The engine room is simply too full with views inaccessible. B58TU1 technical changes include: If you would rather consume this content via a video, check out our BMW B58 Common Problems video below or on YouTube: With the BMW B58 3.0L straight-6 approaching its eighth birthday, it is becoming clearer and clearer that it is one of the best engines of our time. I hope to get a 2015 M3 in a few years time as i would love to drive the S55! The rough idle is a symptom of the VANOS solenoid. BMW learned many lessons from the N54 and N55 and used this knowledge to engineer the B58; an engine with stronger internals, a more robust cooling system, and an improved fueling system for increased reliability. A code scan revealed code P0012. Nonetheless, you must pay to play and the N54 is no exception. Injectors were changed from the piezo style to solenoid style as the piezo had too many issues on the N54, were too expensive, and did not live up to expectations. Cant wait to compare the BM3 to the Dinan Stage 1. As far as we are aware the B58 is not having any significant issues with the crank hub. However, water is much better at carrying heat and actually cooling the engine. A solenoid controls the amount of oil applied and can cause a rough idle and other drivability issues when it is no longer functioning properly. Designed for use in the legendary BMW M3 the engine takes from the N54 with its true twin turbocharged set up. From day one of delivery, I have often smelled coolant. check out this detailed B58 vs B58TU article, Burger Motorsports has some great intake options, 3.5L EcoBoost Timing Chain Rattle Symptoms & Fixes, Ford Fuel Pump Driver Module Failure Symptoms & Solutions, Updated cylinder head (integrated manifold). Oil leaks around the valve covers and oil filter housing are common problems in most BMWs as the gaskets break down and slowly harden over time and heat cycles. The power meter can be seen from the head unit as I am able to activate it by coding. Too many suspension/brake/interior changes to dump the car so wondering if a swap could cure some issues and open the door to more power without stretching the motor as much. Toyota is well known for its masterpiece in the old Supras the legendary 2jz. Rear mounted VANOS and timing chain. Stupid technicians, or cheap skates that mix coolant with distilled water cause cooling system boiling point to fall. Ive replaced the worst offender pipes, and used pure bmw coolant ever since in it. Improvement of Valvetronic - VVT4 with reduced height. AND reliable! However, it's fair to chalk up minor coolant loss to being natural. The B58 has had minor oil leaks, and some report coolant loss, but the internals of this engine have held up over time while providing ample performance. Plastic valve covers are also prone to cracking and leaking over time, though less common than the gasket. Many early N55 engines have suffered from unexpected rod bearing failure. Now I still experience a bit of coolant loss, but much, much less. Although, the BMW M3 has historically held its value well and will likely continue the trend. The BMW B58 is a turbocharged straight-six engine, which began production in 2015. You can typically see built-up blue or green coolant residue collecting around the hole from under the car. Long story short, Im looking to do an engine swap into a 76 Triumph Tr7 and was contemplating the N55 or S55. We appreciate the positive feedback. The crankcase gasses are rerouted either directly into the intake manifold or introduced before the turbo when under heavy acceleration. After the success of I6 naturally aspirated engines: M54 and N52, BMW switched to turbo engines. Just purchased a 2021 M340. Trust me she still has a lot of life yet to go. Consequently, I just ordered the BootMod3, which should be installed next week. I had the 4.2 I6 in both my 1975 Landcruiser (FJ40) and my 1978 Jeep CJ-7. Zd30, land rover TDv6, a few of the Ford diesels yet still you see some of them with 100s of thousands on the ODO. Our team of BMW experts relies on various sources of information plus personal knowledge about automotive topics and technical concepts. Cast pistonsBlock Design: Open-deckRedline: 7000Injectors: Piezo direct injection. Im not sure how many as I was never given any job sheets. In reality, it was worse than the factory part. ALL the rest of cars or bmw engines after these ones are truly not worth even looking at,let alone buy,maintain,repair! Thanks Zach! My 2017 M240i with 27,000 kms is suffering from the same symptoms. Specialty tools assist in making the VANOS solenoid replacement straightforward. However, this may not be necessary in most cases. What kind of HP increase could I expect with the JB4 piggyback tune? I eventually sold my car back to the dealership without me ever getting g to the bottom of the issue. Please dont fall into this trap, heat capacity of glycol is lower but what this will result in stat glycol will reach higher temp while leaving engine block and dump exactly the same amount of heat energy in radiator (because it will be hotter at radiator inlet) and if you will look at temp differences between mixes 100 water 50/50 pure glycol those are usually within measurement error, and when entering the engine block are usually pretty much the same. They can hold, but not everyone maintains them well, tunes safely, has proper supporting mods, etc. N55 is better than the N54, but its just a reliability upgrade. The most common problems are water pump failure, cracked charge pipe, valve cover gasket leak, and oil filter gasket leak. It also comes down to each specific engine. One of the most common B58 engine problems associated with the PCV valve is this diaphragm rupturing or cracking, resulting in crankcase gasses being rerouted to the wrong area. Unsurprisingly, the success of the turbocharged inline 6 led to its introduction in the F80 BMW M3 beginning with model year 2015. 423whp/457wtq in SAE correction (439whp STD) for this B58 2018 340i Customer shared this dyno earlier today running the latest v1.6 Stage 2 93 octane (98RON for those in Europe) OTS map. The VC is prone to cracking and leaking, too. Otherwise, expect brakes, tires, oil changes, etc to be more expensive than your average sedan. Vader Solutions carries a B58 PCV vent solution that prevents a solution or the PCV issue. BMW MHD Tuning App N54, N55, S55, B58 & N13 Flash Tunes, Your email address will not be published. There really should be no such thing as natural coolant loss. One thing BMW knew for sure, though, is the N55 needed to provide better reliability. Original BMW coolant (the one in 1.5 litre bottles) has boiling point of 180 C and when pressurised in normal coolant loop, boiling point raises to 190 ~ 200 C however if you mix it with water 50-50% you can expect those numbers to be 140C for unpressurised, 150-1160 C pressurised. Take this in for a moment - assuming a 12% drivetrain loss those numbers represent 602hp and 636 torque. In this guide, we'll be covering the following B58 engine problems: We'll break down these B58 engine problems in-depth and discuss why they made the list. Never put excessive loads on the engine when its still cold. Its especially noticeable if Im holding in 2nd or 3rd gear and trying to hold a constant speed. Its that sad with bmw. Inline 6s are well known in Australia. Three times this has happened and Ive only just reached 14500 miles. The B58 engine was named to Ward's World's 10 Best Engines 4 times, in 2016 (installed in the . Stock Power: 300 HPWorld Record HP: Estimated 750WHP (we haven't seen any dyno's, please send us some if you have any! Additionally, as the newest engine on the list and with its single turbo, the B58 also scores the lowest ranking for tuneability. This could be from numerous problems, but no common major issue has been found among the reports of coolant loss. Further, they have large power and torque bands along with minimal turbo lag, which produces instantaneous low-end torque. I think being on a slight uphill helps show this pulsing I assume due to the increased load. Considered my car is stage 1 tuned. It seems the coolant loss has now accelerated. what it was please. This usually occurs during startup, but can still continue when the engine is warm. I took my car to the dealership, they did pressure system check, but they didnt find any leaks. BMW techs dont seem to know how to resolve this. Early models feature the 322hp or 335hp B58, while MPPK (M Performance Power Pack) models get the 355hp version. Flush out and refill coolant every 5 years. I have a 440i with m performance and sound kit during cold start there is shaking in the car I can feel the shaking if I hold the stearing wheel with both of my hands I am not sure what might be causing the problem only have about 25k miles showed to dealer they dint find anything That says a lot especially given the B58 is doing it with a better power band, especially up top, and improved reliability. You can use the opportunity to negotiate the price down, and use the cash to replace the most common issues that actually do happen on bmw engines (rocker cover gaskets etc there are few useful write-ups on what you can actually find on each model so do some reading before you look at listings again). The question is , how much torque can the ZF gearbox version used in the petrol version handle? When your BMW B58's PCV valve fails, or is nearing failure, one of the most common symptoms is smoke coming from your exhaust. https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/01/18/bmw-b58-six-cylinder-engine-wins-second-10-best-engines-award-from-wardsauto/, https://bmwtuning.co/the-4-most-common-bmw-b58-engine-problems/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbc4Hs-G9Rc, https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/12/fiat-chrysler-patent-turbo-inline-six-engine/, https://moparinsiders.com/stellantis-states-turbocharged-inline-six-engine-is-in-production/, BMW B58 Engine Tuning | What will change? Don't sweat it if you're only topping up small amounts on occasion. You can say we are somewhat N54 fanatics. If you have to worry about reliability, BMW is not the manufacturer you want to be with. Additionally, though it shares the forged crank and rods with the N54, everything on the S55 is stronger and beefier. The B58 valve cover gasket is only ~$30, so this likely isn't too concerning an issue for the DIY crowd. We appreciate the positive feedback! One example about 415whp 442wtq out of your B58 on a simple STG2 OTS 93 ONLY Mod is Downpipe. Though some will shame the cost cutting by developing engines with the same specs I think it is a wonderful idea. Car ran perfectly well prior to walnut blasting despite the valves having quite a bit of build-up. Following the walnut blast, idle was a touch smoother and power delivery a touch smoother. The B58 uses two coolant tanks in its system. Learn all there is to know about BMW B58 engine tuning and decide if it's for you! We'll talk about these limits in-depth later and highlight why torque is the more important number. Hi Adam, Thanks for the information. Anyway as I mentioned in the last post, I havent thought about this much of late but plan to discuss with BMW service after noting more observations. Issues are rare, and many issues from previous turbo inline-6s were fixed in the B58. Excessive oil consumption is another big one that can alert you to this issue. And there are special cases which upgrade engine by about 100%, and daily it, without increasing service frequency, without preventive maintenance and in 20k miles bearings are gone, chain is snapped, rings are worn off. Lets look at both engines in detail to find out why the N55 is not as reliable as the new B58. Required fields are marked*. In terms of engine and chassis design, BMW is still one of. The cost $60-$65 each and get a few spare clips. Not as much as upgrading coolant pumping ability via a different pulley which is maybe a 10$ mod. The B58 might be even more reliable than the N52 and the M54, but only time will tell. Copyright 2021 - 2023 BMW Tuning LLC. Too much trouble. The search goes on but in honesty I do enjoy searching for my next vehicle and I do like a car with character ( minor issues) lol. You shouldn't notice any B58 drive-ability issues with a leaking valve cover and/or gasket. BMWs B58 and S55 engines are newer, so more issues may pop up down the road. Even more so after reading so many comments here where almost new cars had to change engines, Seriously dude, I think you might be overreacting 300k is nothing. Lastly, issues with waste-gate rattle were mostly resolved on the N55. Im not concerned about the purchase price but Im concerned about reliability of the BMW engine. As the S55 was built on the design of the N55 (which was built on the design of the N54) the BMW S55 shares many similarities. Experience something very similar with a 2018 M240i. Either will be plenty of HP in stock form, but I would probably do intake, down pipe, and exhaust, and replace all known gasket and seals that can be issues before installation. Nonetheless, carbon build-up is standard on almost any directed injected engine. Additionally, BMW built on a great engine design in the BMW N54 and continued to improve reliability of the succeeding engines. [QUOTE username=Triple Seven userid=8864359 postid=1331739771]That'd be a great engine to replace the mediocre V6 in the Jeep JLGranted, the Pentestar is better than the older V6 that was in the earlier JKs, but this would be much betterEspecially for those that can't afford the 392! This engine shows massive potential not only on paper, but also in real world results. Thanks. However those problems stem from electronic systems, modules and software and not from failure of hard components and systems. Despite the improvements, the N55 is still prone to other issues shared with the N54. Therefore, I will not purchase a BMW unless it is a certified BMW. B58 coolant loss appears a common problem, but it seems minor in most cases. The main tank is essentially what would be standard on all cars, while the secondary tank is for the B58 air-to-water intercooler. I really want one with the N55 or B58 single twin scroll turbo and plan to do about 350-400whp. Disclaimer: This site contains affiliate links. BMW's B58 and S55 engines are newer, so more issues may pop up down the road. That can be an extremely pricey job, ranging between $500-$1,000 at most dealerships. Hello, I own F20 120i 2018 with B48 engine (184hp). Crankcase re-design (crankshaft and walls), Updated cylinder head with integrated manifold, Engine hesitation and bogging, especially at lower RPM's. Smoke from the valve cover area is common if the leak is bad enough. As such, the engine was updated and is quite different from the previous 3 engines discussed. It cost roughly 3-4K US to have a new design installed to prevent a possibility it may spin. Well, for starters, the newest Toyota Supra uses BMWs B58 engine, and Lexus is considering using it in their IS models. Turns out coolant was getting into the engine. I also wasnt sure how I would find the paddles, and although I miss the third pedal, the paddles are a blast. Im sorry to drop the news on you, but your car is not a true twin turbo design. | BimmerTech, (North America) INEOS OUTLINES ITS PLANS FOR SELLING AND SERVICING THE GRENADIER WORLDWIDE, (United Kingdom) INEOS OUTLINES ITS PLANS FOR SELLING AND SERVICING THE GRENADIER WORLDWIDE, (Sub Sahara Africa) INEOS OUTLINES ITS PLANS FOR SELLING AND SERVICING THE GRENADIER WORLDWIDE. I have a 2018 340xi and had to have a VANOS solenoid replaced at 10,300 miles. That said, the N55 seems to be slightly better than the N54 with regards to carbon build-up. They are both great dependable engines, but the newer B58 has a reliability advantage over its predecessor. The BMW B58 engine is a remarkable one. Glad I wasnt imagining this weird phenomenon . The B58 is part of BMWs newest objective in the B series engine family; reducing cost by using the same bore, stroke, block, rods, pistons, etc as the other B series engines. 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