The figures at 200 yards are 1931 fps and 1656 ft. lbs. In Alaska, Model 71 Winchesters were popular for big bears. Leverguns 50. Some earlier sources listed the same cartridge overall length but with a neck in excess of .5 inch. The .348 is shaped for it's purpose of hunting things that can eat you. I prefer the look and feel of the longer barrel, which invariably had a four-round half-magazine. Hunting in Alabama with a Winchester model 71 in 348 caliber, The 71 Winchester is one of my favorite hunting guns, The deer was shot at about 45 yards, usin. Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. It was not named after its year of introduction like other Winchester lever actions; it was simply the next number available. The cartridge design was based on the .50-110 cartridge case with a case rim diameter of .610" and a case length of 2.255". 4. . 2,810 ft.lbs.) Case separations can occur from stretching due to overloading or setting the shoulder back excessively. . Some of the younger hunters might question the .348WCF. See it every now and again at Gun Shows and it is .pricey. That said, a well-worn Model 71 in .348 Winchester is one of those bucket-list rifles, and Im always on the prowl for a deal, hiding in the dusty corner of a gun shop. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. A few months ago, I had swaged down 286 grain round nose (.366"/9.3) to .358". The 348's dad. You are using an out of date browser. With a cartridge generating between 2,700 and 3,000 ft.-lbs. Mag. Today, this window has shrunk. I personally think you can hunt anything with it except Cape buffalo and elephant. Aug 26, 2017. The Browning 71. and 2300 for the 250. I used it in Arizona while hunting horseback and shot Mule Deer and Coues Deer with it. The levergun was in quite good shape; according to the serial number, it was manufactured in 1949. The Deluxe had a checkered pistol grip and fore-end and detachable sling-swivel studs. It takes a lot of work although many don't realize. As a lefty, theres little interference with fit and feel. cartridge. At 54.7 grains, accuracy was excellent, there were no pressure signs in my rifle, and velocity was 2,830 fps. The current Winchester .348 factory load uses a 200 grain Silvertip bullet (SD .236) at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2520 fps from a 24" barrel. The rifles appeared in the 1988 Gun Digest with the notation that production would be limited to 3,000 rifles and 3,000 carbines. It was the 250-grain .348-inch bullet, with a sectional density of 0.295, that gave the .348 Winchester its excellent reputation against the larger species like brown bear and moose, though the 200-grain slugsectional density of 0.236worked on smaller species, including black bear and elk. Rifle Recoil Table. Buffalo Bore, Grizzly Cartridge and Choice Ammunition are among the boutique shops which will serve the owner of a Model 71 well. Yours a Win or a Browning? The Model 71 Winchesterand the .348 WCF Cartridge. I have four M71's. One Winchester Deluxe and three Browning repro's and a Browning 1886 50-110 built from a 45-70 repro. Thanks for posting the pics. Should you be fortunate enough to find a Winchester Model 71 in good shape, and I know Id have a hard time laying off that purchase, youll need a supply of .348 ammunition. The most well known is likely the .450 Alaskan. 2) Old West Scrounger 348 Winchester 200 Grain Soft Point; Midway box with OWS label. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Mag..22-250 Remington vs. .204 Ruger .25-06 Remington vs. 6.5 Creedmoor .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government7x57mm Mauser vs. .280 Remington.300 Win. This was a favorite of my dads for years, killed elk and deer with it. Overall Condition Fine. 71 with bolt peep sight and a nice bull (52inches). BrownBear, I am missing how the B&M thread is pimping his company. At the time, cases were headstamped .34 Winchester, and Sharpe kept a sample for his collection. Probably not needed, but it would be an interesting endeavor. This allowed for the use of more powerful cartridges, as well as allowing for the use of a scope mounted low, over the bore thanks to the side ejection. Mark I would like to buy your scope unless you have one with a red dot . #12. In order to max out the action and wring out maximum performance, for its .348 Winchester took a step back in time, using the big .50-110 blackpowder case, which has a diameter of 0.553 inch and a massive 0.610-inch rim. for big bear, But us oldtimers know that Winchester designed the 71 for it . Action Tubular magazine-fed, lever action - Lever action is crisp and operates smoothly.. vs. .458 Lott7mm Rem. Our 16 months old daughter decided to have a nap while we worked on the animal. ACCOUNT. He probably considered it overpowered, but Id love to know the circumstances and which bullet he used. The .50-110, introduced in 1887, had a case length of 2.400 inches, a rim diameter of .610 inch and a base diameter in front of the rim of .553 inch. For bullet weights above 200 grains, H-4831 produced the smallest groups and extreme velocity spreads. 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I have a Win 95 in 405Win that I want to take out but I always chicken out and take the 358 Norma. The .348 used to be a pretty popular hunting rifle, but it is almost extinct. Love the 71s. Hi all, I wanted to share my 2020 bull elk I took a few days ago, with my Winchester 71 in .348. vs. 8mm Rem. I have 3 an original a Browning and a new Winchester. It originally came out about 1935 and it was later . I got my first Model 71 about 20 years after the rifle was discontinued, and it came with some component 150-grain bullets. cartridge. 348 winchester for sale and auction. Simply put, you can use the pistol bullets for the .38 Special and .357 Magnum for plinking and practice, while taking full advantage of the rifle projectiles for the numerous .358-inch cartridges. The .356, .348, and .307 are ballistically superior not only to these calibers for the hunting most people do, but they are superior to the great .30-30..by a considerable margin. Looks like a sweet rifle. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? Based on the .50-110 Winchester, the .348 Winchester built on the concept of the .33 Winchester; they share the same 0.610-inch rim diameter, and both use a tapered, bottlenecked case. The frontal diameter advantagealbeit slightgoes to the .358 while the sectional density advantage swings back to the .348; no obvious winner based on those criteria. Model 71 Deluxe. Buy your Patriot Ordnance Factory Revolution Gen 4 308 Win/7.62NATO Rifles from BattleHawk Armory today!. . Mfg: Winchester. The rifle and cartridge were introduced in January 1936, with the .348 Winchester cartridge loaded with 150- and 200-grain bullets. Nice rifle, and Nice moose! Caliber .348 Winchester. The 71 was chambered only in .348 . Certainly a fine looking Moose. seems to be the most "available" caliber in the 1886's. Mag. Hi and welcome to the forum. This backing off from maximum loads would hardly be noticed in the woods at peep sight ranges and frequently produced tighter extreme spreads and smaller groups. To appease those hunters who wanted more punch, Winchester offered a necked-up .35-caliber version of the .308, the .358 Win. Bought the gun from Dr. Gaede's estate. $1.86/each. Lots of other people before you have made it necessary for you to prove yourself as an honest businessman. Various reports of factory-original muzzle velocities for the 150- grain bullet range from 2,890 to 2,920 fps. 0. When they do I will ship those rounds at that time. EDIT(** I said 3. #5. I PROVIDE 7 DAY INSP. Touted as being one of the most powerful lever action cartridges available, it was popular for hunting large game all across America. Its not really that difficult to imagine; there have been so many excellent models over the years that its tough to pick a favorite. It gained a strong reputation for close range medicine on moose, elk, and even big bears. They are in demand in the west as it is a great round for elk, moose and some people use it on grizzly bears at under 200 yrds. How about some .358? Although not a lever-action guy, Jack OConnor wrote kindly of the 71 and, in the late 1930s he used the .348 to take one of his desert bighorns. The 33 cal. Model 71 in 348 Winchester: The most righteous combination!! The old lever actions bag includes Kudu, Eland, Hartebeest, Cheetah, Oryx, Springbok . in the model 71. Estimated Value *Using 80% condition for calculating used Values. COMES WITH OWNERS MANUAL, ETC. Keith got his wish because apparently the 250-grain load came along shortly. The 150-grain bullet, though incredibly fast, was too light for caliber and didnt last long. I load the nosler partition 225gr. 406-777-2106. I CAN PROVIDE REFERENCES ON GUN SALES. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Accordingly, my practical nature gives the nod to the .358 Winchester, for the flexibility and ease of creating brass cases. The old 348 Winchester powerhouse in a lever-action would be fantastic on a bear hunt. Login Register Menu. If you're providing a quality product at a reasonable price, I'm sure you'll do well here and I wish you the best. Home Forum Winchester Shooting and Hunting Old Time Moose Hunt Video/Wincheste . In The Rifle in America, Phil Sharpe notes that he became aware of the new cartridge early on in its development during a visit to the Winchester factory. Chrono results for 20 rnds is 2,092 FPS . This was such an amazing harvest of a free range trophy in the hill tops of Dullstroom. Did you recover the bullet? He hauled it all ove the state in his airplane. *Caliber, Barrel Length, Generations, Sub Models may all affect item price. So this created a rarity in the history of sporting rifles and self-contained metallic cartridges: The Model 71 was never chambered to any cartridge except .348, and the .348 was never factory-chambered to any rifle other than the 71. The best selection of hunting, self defense, target, shooting, practice, plinking, surplus, jacketed hollow point/JHP, full metal jacket/FMJ, and frangible 348 Winchester ammo - buy 1000 rounds or more. You must log in or register to reply here. Cutting Edge provided two bullets, a 175-grain Lever Raptor and a 200-grain Lever Solid. These dimensions are from current sources such as the Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, 10th Edition. It was the standard version, sans checkering, sling swivels and pistol grip cap. Ive seen many Standards with apertures, so this must have been a common option or a quick addition by local gun shops. Over the decades, I've owned six or seven rifles/carbines chambered for 348 Win. Even with simplified manufacturing, the Model 71 was expensive. Never had a reputation for stellar accuracy but if it hits vitals its all over. To be fair, some of these high-velocity loads shot very well, especially with Cutting Edge bullets, but the price was too high in case life, at least for me. Winchester 348 WCF Ammo: $65. Thanks for sharing. I use it on black bear and deer in the brush and am planning to take it to Texas for hogs. Calling and shooting predators is one of the things that helps hunters get from the end of the fall seasons to when the turkeys start gobbling. Narrowing down bullet choice was difficult and best left to the individual shooter and his specific needs. That 162 grains is light for caliber, but lever actions are limited to finite cartridge overall length, and copper-alloy bullets are longer than lead-core bullets. I reduced the charge again and worked back up. Is the .348 Winchester a practical choice, as far as ammunition availability and modern rifle production? Total:9,032 (members:1,045, guests:7,987). Powder selection began with IMR-4895. All my M71's chamber very oversize cast bullets in the .353-.354" range. The 250-grain bullet was a real powerhouse. He was able to test fire the experimental cartridge as well. Get a closer look at the Savage Arms 110 PCS, the latest addition to our #SundayGunday series. Mag. Description: For your consderation is two 20 round boxes of .348 Winchester ammunition. Both rifle and carbine models were offered in standard and Deluxe editions. As this powder was recently discontinued, I would fall back on either IMR-4895 or H-4895. vs. .340 Wby. The pictures are few n far between. IMR-4895, the long-time favorite, was the fastest-burning powder selected and performed extremely well across the board, but other slower powders, all the way to H-4831, had their moments. It wasand isa thumper on deer-size game, and its adequate for black bear, elk and moose, but its probably marginal for big bears. Last Updated: 3m ago. Considering the two-digit designation old fashioned, Sharpe suggested the company go with three-digit nomenclature reflecting the groove diameter of the barrel, hence, the .348. The best 100-yard, three-shot groups hovered around 2 inches certainly adequate given the sights and likely uses. There were options and upgrades, but the Model 71 was produced in only two primary variants: Standard and Deluxe, both in rifle versions with 24-inch barrels and carbines with 20-inch barrels and pistol grip stocks. Total Page View: 105 Views. I wish I could have gotten my hands on Roy's old Savage model 99 in 303 British. Boddington's Model 71 Deluxe, purchased 30 years ago, came with an assortment of ammo and components, but most of these options have dwindled. Being housed in the Model 71s tubular magazine, the .348 Winchester was limited to flat-point or round-nose bullets; the top ejection of the rifle wasnt conducive to mounting a scope over the center of the bore, so most Model 71s remained iron-sighted affairs. As for the other options North Fork and Woodleigh I think price wise might end up being more than the consumer would really want to pay. of muzzle energy, the .348 Winchester was well-suited to a top-eject lever gun, which predominately relied on iron sights. You must log in or register to reply here. Tommie. What an awesome rifle, thanks for the pictures and story. Later, Winchester supplied both Lyman and Williams receiver sights, the more common L-shaped sight, with the elevation slide mounted on the left side of the receiver. Hornady offers the 200-grain FTX and a 200-grain roundnose InterLock as component bullets, but few other mainstream choices remain. $1,295.00 . That is to say, we assume the whitetail deer being harvested is shot directly or nearly directly in the vitals (heart and/or lungs). If it were mine (and if I still shot or hunted) I'd start looking for reloading dies, scrounge cases from every where I could imagine - and seriously consider casting my own bullets for it. The .348 Winchester was developed for the Winchester Model 71 lever action rifle in 1936. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Simply the .308 Winchester case necked up to hold .358-inch-diameter bulletsmuch like the .30-06 Springfield necked up will yield the .35 Whelenand using the same 20-degreee shoulder for headspacing, the rimless cartridge fed perfectly from the Model 88s box magazine, as well as the in the Model 70 and Savage Model 99. The .348 is another of my favorites. A Lee Factory Crimp Die accomplished this chore well on bullets with and without cannelures. Winchester. There was a time, before the Model 70 had become a household name, when Winchester was synonymous with the lever-action rifle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. To get a proper field of view, I just grind my cheek a little harder into the comb. The 200-grain bullet was always the most popular. Sell your Smith Wesson Governor for FREE today on GunsAmerica! Kinda neet rack with good width and skinny palms! Great pictures and a beatiful daughter. We are shipping a pallet of ammo to Anchorage next week and we want to ship 348 Winchester 200gr FTX ammo along with it but we need to know if there is a demand first. Introduced in 1936 it was an upgrade of the famous Model 1886. Heavy 348 Winchester Ammo - 250 gr. Today Skinner Sights makes a receiver sight for the 71/86. Our partner in Anchorage is Alaskan Custom Firarms. Good bull, too. Condition: Good. August 13, 2021 - 12:05 am Agree 100 % ,with what MRCVS stated. 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