Why can't you say the previous owner caused this? What would I do, if I had the engine, equipped with these injectors?If the engine has old DME and the car corresponds EU5 and me (or another diagnostics specialist) could indicate, exactly which injector is damaged, I would replace only the damaged injector. Posts. Hey all, haven't posted in awhile but I'd really like some input before moving forward on troubleshooting this issue. So time to test the fuel pump. Changed all spark plugs and coil pack changed oil too . engine failure and limp mode . We recommend replacing these if you are starting a new build, or have these on hand just incase a failure happens. Sorry I'm not BMWNA to pull up this "documentation" you're after. There was no need for two injection impulses anymore. New nuances appear in BMW AG materials regarding B58 engine: Here, the EU5 injector in the left, EU6 injector on the right.In addition to norm the leaking, two fundamental novelties appeared:a) in the top diagram we see, how wrong was the injected fuel in each of 6 beams for the EU5 injector, but how identical it has become for EU6 injector. N series. Smooth run. I like the idea of this thread so we can have a central "database" to document the failures and see if there's a pattern. Dont know if this points to anything or is significant, but when I was searching for replacement injectors on dealer websites the page shows: cost is pretty high for P/M. The TU1 update is mostly intended to improve emissions. Sounds good. No scoring problems on my tracked car. Typical situation in case of damage of the NOx sensor, Intake manifold. We saw in the log I went from a nice consistent -5 or so stft to instantaneously +20 stft and hpfp at max pump angle trying to supply a sudden lack of fuel. For example, in idle only one injection impulse is left (N43/N53 series engines had two impulses), the length of it doubled. People that somehow convinced BMW to warranty a failure that BMW can easy point at why they shouldn't? Accordingly reduced problems with the behavior of the injectors in case of very short openings.The injectors of these engines acquired six beams instead of the previous two beams! Email kern417yt@gmail.comFOLLOW ME ON MY SOCIAL MEDIAhttps://www.facebook.com/kern417youtubehttps://www.instagram.com/kern417https://www.tiktok.com/@kern417?Support the people that support me! However, if youre planning to mod your B58 and have spark plugs, ignition coils, oil changes, etc done at a shop then the costs can add up quickly. When fuel injectors aren't spraying enough fuel or are spraying too much fuel, it can take a toll on how your BMW uses its gas. We recommend a 50/50 mix of water and coolant for the B58. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The recommended oil weight from BMW is 0W-20. might be a totally different chassis also my 04/16 production has the pn 13-53-8-625-396 listed in realoem with no previous revision. BMWs B58 engine also uses drop-forged cracked connecting rods. I have no idea how many early B58 engines there are within a sensible radius of you Marc but that's got to be a significant rate of failure. That's surely pretty concerning stats for the average B58 owner, no? Interestingly mine has 13538625396 fitted, did yours have 13-53-7-639-990? Will report back with results That should do it. Rep. 447. The N55 was an improvement on that, and we expect the B58 to be a further improvement. A safe purchase? We truly believe a JB4 + BEF is the ultimate tuning solution. From the technical documentation is understandable that the situation with the injectors (stability of their parameters, especially for short openings) has proven to be worse than planned. E series. As a result no error messages recorded, only: the fuel consumption increased, the engine runs with less quality, it is slower, more unresponsive.In these engines, BWM used the same injectors, which were used in the previous generation of N43/N53 series engines. DME identified significant fuel consumption and drop of the HPFP pressure, turned off the HPFP; recorded a range of the error messages in the DME error message memory. Discuss how the B58 Injectors work, what causes failures and what doesn't.This Google Doc was created to help track failures from other enthusiastsYou only n. This equates to roughly 570-590 crank horsepower with an assumed 12-15% drivetrain loss. N series. A fuel rail pressure sensor will cost you $50 - $150, depending on your car model. Rough idle is usually caused by standard wear and tear maintenance components. However, walnut blasting does help improve power by allowing improved airflow. Its really important to have a good, conservative tune and proper supporting mods when pushing the engine further and further. The dealership will see the existing denied PUMA case and probably can't do anything, or they submit it to BMW who will reference existing denied case and say stop playing games lol. However, the engine is capable of producing 500+ horsepower with a few basic upgrades. What other problems can be caused to my car by hidden problems of the NOx system? Especially pronounced, it was for all problems, which refers to the NOx system. Good question, and there is no perfect answer. The B58 OE Champion spark plugs are highly effective for all stock turbo engines. The N55 only requires walnut blasting every 80,000ish miles. That won't work. Look no further. However, we think its a bit too long between oil changes. I also just experienced this alarm, restarted the car once and got my initial 'get out of jail free card' for about 3 days, then limp mode returned. F series. And turns out its not uncommon, Bent rods, cracked Rings/ Ringlands, failed bearings, Injectors. What to do? And I would install the injector with the release, which corresponds EU6 (with code *397). Typical situation in case of damage of the NOx sensor, Intake manifold. N53. Can anyone here help ? . In these engines, the same injectors as for N55/N20/N26 are used. Appreciate 0 Quote 09-14-2018, 03:52 PM #8: e85m4. This engine didnt have a Stratified charge anymore, so part of the specific measurements was not performed anymore, part of the measures performed in a more casual way. Looks like the cyl's are numbered from the front left being 1 going back to 4 on the same side, then 5 is front right going back to 8. You must log in or register to reply here. 2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum. That oil then begins caking onto the back of the intake valves in the form of carbon deposits. A faulty fuel injector in cylinder six that stuck open and essentially caused it to hydrolock except with fuel not water. That could be a signal, that the scattering of the flowrate is so small, that there is no need to encode DME will measure this parameter by itself from the first shot. Yes. Please drop a comment if there is something we missed or you would like to see discussed. Such a solution has as if improved the fulfillment of cylinders. But there was a major update done in 2018 and then another for 2020. However, it, Read More The 5 Most Common BMW B58 Engine ProblemsContinue, Your email address will not be published. Typically, FBO on the B58 refers to a tune, intake, and downpipe. The pistons are cast, but remain strong. B58. Its tough to say. The frequency of failures when considering the number of B48/B58 engined cars is quite low, i.e., the issue is an 'if', not a 'when'. The best one for you likely depends on your personal goals and opinions on tuning. In my opinion, cylinder scoring is bad air intake or an oil problem. Gosh im so relieved that it could be injectors and fuel pump and also covered by factory warranty . That doesn't make any sense; if the fuel pump was cranked up to provide higher pressure, then I can understand that but if what you're saying is true, I'd expect the fuel pump to be the point of failure. Expect about 20-21psi to be a safe limit for the stock turbo. However, there are many other excellent brands of engine oil for the B58. Throttle and accelerator pedal. BMWs B58 engine is a 3.0L inline-6 turbocharged, direct injection gasoline engine produced from 2016-present. Its also doing so with greater overall reliability. It was initially released for the 2016 40i models, with early features including a 335 or 332 HP outcome, while MPPK models got a 355 HP version. Different (remaining) efficiency of cylinders. Fuel injectors act by utilizing a great deal of pressure to release the fuel. Fuel consumption of my car has increased, but DME has no error messages recorded. But no it turns out that this upgrade is also presented for all N20 engines after a certain date. Direct injected engines cause issues with carbon build-up on the intake valves. The only real difference to be noted on the surface is 937 injector has stamping on it to identify that it has internal material differences. But the most interesting will only come!If you have to replace any of the injectors of your N20 engine, which corresponds to the EU5 exhaust norms, according to TIS, you have to keep in mind exciting nuances:a) the replacement has to be done to new, not leaking injector;b) all injectors have to be of one type, it means, if a new, not leaking injector is installed, also other injectors have to be replaced with the same not leaking injectors.BMW proudly calls it EU5 to EU6 conversion procedure. Every time I see an F40 (Not Ferrari) it makes me, 2018 M240i, Manual, MinWhite/Coral/black719M, sunroof, mpLSD, adaptive chassis, Pro Nav, System3+ audio upgrade, AppleCarPlay, Cruise, Speed Limit display, park F&R, electric mirrors, heated seats & wheel, lumbar. Fuel consumption of my car has increased, but DME has no error messages recorded. Individual adaptations of injectors. Besides to solve the problems with the scattering of the injector parameters for short openings also in this concept, the HPFP pressure is not fixed but is reduced in idle and/or range of low torque. What to do? Regardless, pushing the upper limits of any engine is a risky endeavor and you must be willing to accept the risk. Ahhhwalnut blasting. Also curious what made you go PI meth over PI e85? 2016 340i | M-Sport | Mineral Grey | Coral Red | Bone Stock. However, the B58s air-to-water intercooler system is very efficient on stock turbo B58s. Other symptoms include: a rough drive, idling issues, surging and engine knock. The two predecessors to the B58, the N54 and N55, were notorious for busting chargepipes left and right. Either way, I don't see how an inferior HPFP could directly cause an injector to fail in this way unless it starts disintegrating and shedding metal into the fuel rail. LL01 approved oils will also work well on the B58. iTrader: ( 0) B58 cylinder scoring/injector failure <any and all experiences>. Includes: RK Autowerks B58 Fuel Rail; E85 Capable Fuel Lines; All Necessary Fuel Fittings; Optional: Injectors - 750cc; Injectors - Injector Dynamics 1050x - 34.14.14.6; Compatible with: RK Autowerks B58 Billet Port Injection Manifold; 1-Step colder spark plugs from NGK are an excellent option for B58s running over 450whp. Dealers attempt to sketch you for EUR 6000? Youre not going to blow the motor up if you make it to that mark. Where could be the problem? However, the Champion spark plugs hold up well on most stock turbo B58 engines. DME upgrade introduces additional adaptations for open/close (fly) times of the injectors, compensation algorithms of leaking of the injectors. Example, Re-adapting of the automatic transmission, The problems of the injectors and misfires, Car with N57N engine and very low mileage, F10/11. Rough run. Location: Canton, GA. iTrader: ( 0) Drivetrain Malfunction, Multiple Misfires, getting worse. Expect gains in the ballpark of 15-30whp with a catless downpipe. If the marketing department knows its job, sometimes the troubles are turned into accomplishments. Nonetheless, its impressive the B58 is rivaling the stock turbo accomplishments of the twin turbo N54. However, the JB4 can be stacked with a flash tune, known as a back-end flash. Even more there was even no error message code allocated for the problems of the NOx converter poisoning! Now becoming a common cause of poor running on these engines. Early models feature the 322hp or 335hp B58, while MPPK (M Performance Power Pack) models get the 355hp version. In 2018, the B58 received a technical update known as the B58TU1. Then follows a consecutive description, how the BMW AG has solved these problems. by bmw. Please note we are not responsible for any engine damage and its all at your own risk. Avoid this costly issue by maintaining your servicing appointments. Join Date: May 2010 . So did the dealer end up replacing your engine? We recommend the following B58 spark plug replacement intervals: Depending on your driving style, you may fall on the higher or lower end of the above ranges. Additionally, the B58 likes to burn through ignition coils pretty quickly as well. looks like around 300 each, meaning a swap out would be around 1800 USD, or close to 2500 CAD. Turbo engines are also a bit more demanding on standard maintenance. The reason of not using piezo injector is due to the high sulfur content in US market's gasoline, which makes implementing the "lean burn" feature impossible. What sort of personal outcomes are you looking for? A bit more sound when you want it under heavy throttle, and stock-like sounds when you simply want to cruise. Rep. 875. Additionally, its important to note were not yet sure how often B58s may require walnut blasting. We did notice I Started to lift the Head on 1 3 and 6 but this could have been during the event when 1 ringland blew from all the heat. Refurbished. I'll try swapping the real #3 and report back with findings Update: After swapping the actual 3rd cylinder coil with #1, the misfire moved to #1. 220.00. Youll also notice a bit more sound on cold starts. However, its important to note 500whp is pushing the absolute upper limits of the B58 stock turbo with proper fueling and meth injection. The labor work costs 50$ to 150$, depending on the workshop. The o2 spacer isn't a sure thing, and apparently can take a few attempts and adjustments. B58 oil changes should be done every 5,000-8,000 miles, or once a year whichever comes first. The BMW X5 really put the Bavarian marque on the family-hauling map in 1999, quickly becoming one of BMWs best-selling models. The connecting rods are actually made in one piece. Second Lieutenant . Don't think it stayed open sowhat happened there ? You can say we are somewhat N54 fanatics. The B46 4-cylinder is pretty simple with only minor updates. Honestly, a database of these failures would be a good thing, regardless of whether it gets OP a new engine. A Stratified charge doesnt reduce fuel consumption? F10/11. Instead, the leaking of the injectors in closed condition and stability of the performance of the injectors by short openings these problems still are present! Now that motor is torn down, what damage was done to #6 ? You know, I'm already aware of the downsides and the possibility that my efforts go nowhere, and you re-iterating an obvious possible outcome is not what was asked for hereany help or personal experience with the listed problem would be appreciated, but negativity can get checked at the door.thanks! As with the N55, the B58 engine uses a single twin-scroll turbocharger. **Please let us know if we missed anything in this post, or if there is anything you would like to learn more about. Required fields are marked *. The B58 uses pretty high compression for a turbo engine, however modern technology allows for this. I am looking for any documented cases I can provide as evidence . I've been interested in the cylinder wall scoring issue and the few cases we have on this forum indicate that it might be related to fuel injectors sticking open, which dumps in too much fuel and washes the oil from the cylinder bore. 3. Normally, we recommend colder spark plugs on highly modded BMW engines. Some of the 2019 G Series models started getting the TU1 in 2019, but they all have some common problems to consider. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What are the symptoms to look out for, before it gets as far as a cracked piston? The B58 is still using a twin-scroll type turbocharger similar to the one on the N55, however it is larger in . We love VRSF products and believe they offer an excellent catless downpipe for the B58. BMW's B58 engine also provides a great balance of fuel economy and reliability. The BMW B58 entered production in 2015. The B58 has 24 valves. Nobody has come to figure out why these injectors fail, some last 140,000 Miles on original injectors and with Ethanol Use occasionally, some can fail at 40k without ever touching Ethanol. But. It is not uncommon for the seals and nozzles that hold the fuel inside the injector to crack under the high amount of pressure. However, some B58 stock turbos have been pushed beyond 23psi. One of the main reasons these chargepipes failed is that they were made out of plastic. W. Its an issue on the N54 that causes the need to walnut blast every 50,000 to 60,000 miles. This time regarding data, available in the ISTA/Expert mode. Tons of tuning options exist for the B58. Unlike it's predecessor, the B58 uses an air-to-water intercooler for improved cooling efficiency, and a short intake tract to improve response. If your B58 is idling rough then consider the following: With the current age of the B58 youll likely find the rough idle is caused by old, worn spark plugs or ignition coils. BMW's B58 engine is a 3.0L inline-6 turbocharged, direct injection gasoline engine produced from 2016-present. I'm living proof with 4 scored up walls with 4 failed injectors. Add to cart. Mileage when the failure occured? Since the BMW B58 uses an intercooler the temperature of the air entering the intake does not matter much. Rough run. Part 2. Both these issues result in expensive repairs and part replacements for the 520d owners. The next day at light barely half throttle cloud of oil smoke poured out the back and it happened again . Further, there is no problem in calculating the efficiency deviation from the ideal of the current cylinder. The same will apply to the BMW B58. However, time will tell just how bad the valves look around the 100,000+ mile mark. Visit FCP Euro. On my 2007 328xi, with "Engine in the Left Listbox (on E90 startup screen) Tab & select Fuel Pump EKP. After replacement, I would NOT upgrade DME to 17.2.9. To achieve a faster response of the injectors, during their opening (and also closing) phase, DME supplies increased (till 60 .. 70V) voltage. Rough run. Checked code and it said cylinder 8 misfired . Miscellaneous issues are scattered here and there. Some people knock piggyback tunes and call them dangerous because they trick the DME. Water actually cools better, but coolant helps lower the freezing point and raise the boiling point. N43/N53 E and F series. We dont really love that idea. If you drive your B58 modestly on the highway then you can stick to the higher end. Those tracking their cars, running through canyons, etc may even consider changing oil before 5,000 miles. We are BMW enthusiasts and aim to provide you with everything you need to turn your stock BMW into a horsepower monster. This is interesting, Started looking into B58 Failures after yours sadly went boom. Some let go at 500whp while others hold up for years at 700whp. 2007 Jectron Gasoline Fuel Injection Cleaner, 300 ml. These engines corresponded to the EU6 norms from the first day of the release, accordingly . Some B58s may even run up to 70-80% water for track duty. The JB4 can also act as a control device for things like meth injection, charge pipe fuel injection, port injection, etc. Theres no right answer, but in general the B58 should last as long as youre willing to continue repairs and standard maintenance. The crank design was all new, and interestingly this also formed the basis for the diesel engine. Zach has over a decade of experience working on and writing about cars. However, those in hot climates may be better suited to 5W-30. Dont panic about the cracked part. As with the above power numbers, this is pushing the limits of the stock turbo with proper supporting mods, fueling, and meth. A fuel leak can be scary for drivers . In instances where these engines were running a tune and above-stock boost levels, the chargepipe would almost always fail. We wrote a short post about the max boost here. Ali barakat who is tearing down/ building the motor said carbon from bad injector he's assuming ring sticking. We broke down the rough engine maintenance costs above. However, LL14FE oils are designed with fuel economy in mind. Unsurprisingly, the success, Read More BMW N54 vs. N55 vs. B58 vs. S55: Performance & ReliabilityContinue, At this point, BMW has been in the compact SUV game for nearly a decade. We wrote an article here about the most common problems on the B58. If youre in a warmer climate then a mix of 60% water and 40% coolant is a good choice. However to date the B58 is shaping up to be a highly reliable engine. All the B58 problems just don't seem commonly talked about. Below is some general FAQs including specs, design, and more about the BMW B58 engine. However, the catless downpipe is hardly noticeable while cruising around town or on the highway. Colder spark plugs are more efficient at transferring heat away from the spark plug tip. *We will focus specifically on the engine for the purpose of this post. What sort of engine air filter? Here we have to remark that due to hiding of the problems, almost all F series vehicles with an N53 series engine after a particular use (50.000 km+) were not using a Stratified charge. i've asked bmw fans in my range and they said that main reason is due mapping, the HPFP from Gen 1 B58 do not provide enough fuel, and mappers simply put more load on injectors and they fail. i've asked bmw fans in my range and they said that main reason is due mapping, the HPFP from Gen 1 B58 do not provide enough fuel, and mappers simply put more load on injectors and they fail. Even then, its not truly needed. Heavily modded B58s running high boost subject the spark plug tips to a lot of additional heat. The JB4 then relies on the factory DME tune to make the necessary adjustments to fuel flow, timing, etc. Are there any ways to see the health status of the NOx system?, B58. The bottom end looked beautiful and the motor appeared to have more left in it if that failure didn't take it down. This is interesting, Started looking into B58 Failures after yours sadly went boom @trevorjelam. Notes. Injen BMW M240 M340 M440 EVOLUTION Cold Air Intake System **NEW PRODUCT**. Unusual odor. Immediately shut the engine off and tow it home. The Gen 2 B58 have newer HPFP and should better work under remapping. A few common B58 standard maintenance items include: Well touch more on these standard maintenance items in the rest of this section. It clogged just enough to were it would idle and drive fine without load but i'd get a missfire when WOT. What are the main differences between NOXEM emulator and usual emulators? Uneven running. Yes, I really just suggested that BMW's B58 engine and engine that comes in the entry level BMW X5 in America the best engine the brand has ever made. 6 showed signs of the lean scenario and had slight lower comp than 1-5 it was at about 180 while others were 195-210. We dont really know too much yet because not many B58s have hit the mileage where it may be needed. Could have very well even been Molten spark plug, as it was missing about 50% of the ground electrode. Im doomed . Our garage currently includes a 2008 135i, 2007 335i, and 2008 535i. Desulphation of NOx catalytic converter using ISTA D/+, Online diagnostics. Again, water is actually more effective at cooling. Fuel Pressure Sensor Replacement Cost. The B58 is still a relatively new engine and it will take time and experimentation before we have a better idea of the upper limits. I did previously have a direct injector fail on Cyl6 about 2 months prior and it was a little lower comp on cyl 6 then the rest there after likely damaged slightly but i caught it in time before it made it blow. Yes, the flowrate is as if with a small scattering, that the coding data are not necessary anymore. T#: 2691305 | Part#: B2358417. To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. This also caused multiple other cylinders to misfire. Quantity. The efficiency of cylinders No.3 and No.4 is average;c. The efficiency of cylinders No. Yes, that sounds a bit extreme at . How long an engine will last is always a tough topic. This of course restricts airflow into the engine. The N54 takes the cake in regards to horsepower capabilities, but it had many engine problems as a result. Due to injector problems, these engines were a nightmare for BMW AG. Spark plugs are a standard maintenance wear and tear item. Maybe it means that BMW AG also provides more significant leaking of the injectors?c) the generation of the DME software increased from MEVD 17.2.4 to 17.2.9. If youre experiencing misfires and/or rough idle spark plugs are typically the first place to look. 2days later at the traffic light medium throttle it happened again . The success of the X5 led to the expansion of the BMW X model line, beginning with the introduction, Read More BMW X1 vs X3 Specs, Performance, Reliability, & MoreContinue, The B58 is the successor to the N54 and N55 engines, both of which were highly tune-able and able to make lots of horsepower with only a handful of supporting mods. BMW B46/B58 vs B46TU/B58TU. We recommend Liqui Moly oil products for the B58. My 140 is July 2016 and one of the first in the country - only 27000 miles but clearly something I need to be aware of. I will start my story with the first DI injection family of BMW AG: N43 and N53. I am getting all 8 coil packs and spark plugs replaced, and a tune up. Look for things like cooling system problems and gasket oil leaks. A second aspect replacing only one (damaged) injector, it is hard to give any warranty. This means each cylinder uses 2 exhaust and 2 intake valves for a total of 24 valves. Take a look at the screenshots I attached. Thats what weve run on all of our BMWs with great success. . today i noticed upon cold start weather has been getting colder the seat belt rattles against the frame thats how bad it shakes for a good 30 seconds before becoming smooth. I will start the review with the first menu: analysis of Rough run data.Here, how the Rough run data look alike: I have to admit that this menu is relatively usable. No engine is perfect and no engine is exempt from potential problems. As with the N55, the B58 engine uses a single twin-scroll turbocharger. Check Price. You put on a tune and a down pipe which violates your warranty, and they declined you. Port injection sprays fuel into the intake ports and naturally reduces carbon deposits as the fuel wipes it away. This is an increase over the 10.2:1 compression shared between the N54 and N55. Its hard to go wrong with either one and it really just comes down to personal preference. 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