This is a very short description and in no way represents all the opinions of these groups listed. Zilch. I do get it that your comment here was not meant to be an intensive treatise. His last day at Mater Dei was 8/30/2015. Even the Drumm narrative at the link admits that much just as it concedes that they really did make some bad hiring decisions. The FSSP superiors have already been notified: http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-john-emerson-fssp-on-his-break-from-the-sspx Will the FSSP leaders act? Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. It has been my experience time and again that fellow Trads, who later support the sedevacantist position, want nothing to do with family or friends who do not take this position. They are within the Church. Grega's departure from the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter could have been given. This side of eternity, there will always be a certain obscurity to Faith because God wishes that we walk in trust of Him; He wants to lead us because our sanctification is His work with our cooperation. This is a bit off topic, but are you aware of why Fr Flood is no longer in charge of the N American FSSP? Lexington, KY The archdioceses Office of Ministerial Standards brought the information related to Father Saguto to law enforcement, and law enforcement has advised us that they are not initiating a criminal investigation, the archbishop said. Either way . The authorities of the FSSP have been notified about all this just as Father Paul Nicholsons Bishop was about his demonic actions. Fr. His position hardened somewhat in his final years (during which, I might maintain, he probably still would have sprung for either the 2000 or 2012 structure deals offered to Fellay, based on what I know of them), but the fact is that he really did try to work obediently if it would be allowed, even to a papacy that was increasingly singing a modernist hymn. *** Here, let it not be said that the interior of anyone is being judged. heh-heh, point taken! or Will they remain under the standard of Satan? The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter has served All Saints since 2013. Your rash judgement I hope is based on ignorance and not malice. For once youre ranting, raving & complaining about something other than us evil sedevacantists! It is their dissent and heterodoxy and lack of courage that have caused all of this to happen. They accept the council and while there are priests that personally may object even tell certain parishiners this or that they have by joining one of these groups accepted romes position that the second vatican council is part of the church and tradition. addressed to TWN, 3:00pm Closing Talk - Fr. dear john6, Even more so, things that are most important also have an uncanny ability to expose our personal limits and insecurities, which we find threatening as they leave us open to criticism, and so engaging them carries its own risks. Those who think this group is the anti-christ will not be moved from that position. Such initiatives and efforts need not be tiresome, but the sacrifice that goes into being thoughtful and present has a cost, be it in personal time or convenience. A great film and you posted it on St. Joseph of Cupertinos feast day! Now I suppose he is throwing darts at it. All in all, the time table laid out herein is accurate. Oklahoma City, OK NEWS & ADVICE. I hope thats OK. For example, I dont think that grasping issues, as you put it, Alarico is at all key or even important. Hi, my2cents, Nashua, NH Edmonton, AB Catholics are watching and waiting. The fear of being disobedient to (modernist) Popes made so many many Catholics in the last 50 years compromise. Back in the day, Voris, out of genuine concern for souls, used to lambaste the new Mass as a danger to the faith. This rendition of an Internet TV Network has NOTHING to do with the Catholic Faith. Let Voris live in his blissful world. Agree. I say that sincerely, recognizing my own faults and shortcomings which may have led to giving this false impression. Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. The founding document of the FSSP contains lies and heresy. Jeremy Palman. Unfortunately, people who follow Bergoglio are not Catholic. Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! Dear DeMaria and my2cents, He is EVIL. They remind me of that commercial where the woman walks up to the counter to pay for something and the girl says, I need to see your I.D. and the woman says, But Im your Mother! As this unfolds, we lose sight of the individual trees that make up the forest. No, Cardinal Castrillon de Hoyos said as much with respect to the SSPX when he said: We are not confronted with a heresy. It is indeed a shame that there is not a single fully traditional Catholic college in the country. This has had supplied jurisdiction written all over it from day one, and to current, and we didnt need to have the Pope tell us this, but it ought to help the royally confused like CMTV and co. that said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic.. Father Wolfe has been transferred. When I noticed, however, that his more recent talks include the subjects of Sr. Faustina and divine mercy in a favorable light, I turned him off. To me, devotion to the false divine mercy devotion of Sr. Faustina is an excellent indicator of how modernist a priest is. The same holds for the FSSP all the statements about the FSSP are true. GOD did it 2. Many excellent leaders in the Church, good holy men and women, recognize the exact same problems, but they havent left. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? Brookville, IN Hello: I am a sedevacantist. sedevacantists dont believe the chair of peter is vacant theres no different/various groups within the sedevacantist movement. Philip Wolfe, FSSP. Rapid City, SD But I realized, and it actually had nothing to do w/sedevacantism, that me and mine WERE Nancy Pelosi. it comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. But everyone one who has signed off on VII by professing obedience to it and its heresiarchs is outside the Church. LiveMass.Net He knows very well that the Council and the new Mass both are causing people to lose the faith. Dayton, OH Springdale, AR The FSSP is wrong on the doctrine,principles and the new mass. Falling away from the Church is falling away from love of a Person, a veritable running away from the home Christ built. El Paso, TX I certainly never meant to give that impression nor do I wish to be smug and patronizing. Rules or commands should be in play, and they need to be, but these are not what are supposed to define the home. Then I would place bells and whistles around the comment! Today, he is unwilling even to address those specific conciliar propositions that are so clearly at odds with the tradition of the Church, and why this is the case isnt exactly a mystery. Yes, I feel certain that this unfortunate behavior comes from both sides of the aisle (so to speak). OBITUARIES. You do not have a right to hear anymore from me. Not even one? With Thanksgiving Day, many are (or were, depending on where you live) looking forward to getting together at home and spending time with family and friends. No status means just that none. Barbara ChurchMilitant and M. Voris started this. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. Quincy, IL The details of this local conflict arent important, but what is important to know is that Fr. Heres the truth: The SSPX refuses to sign a statement saying the Vatican II is an integral part of the tradition of the Church. It is this to which they refuse to submit, not the legitimate authority of the pope. I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. It can be done, but always with a view that charity is the FIRST item ticked off. Their website didnt say where he was going. The rules and commands originated with a person. A distinction must be made when speaking about the FSSP. There is a way to point out the faults of others. The circumstances surrounding the departure of the French-Canadian priest from the Fraternity were a mystery. (1 Cor:23). You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. Rather, a home is ultimately an interaction between personalities that are supposed to be loving each other spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents. St. Catharines, ON Zero. General Chaplain Father Stefan Reiner. Following the dedication, North American Superior Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, celebrated the first church's Mass, and Archbishop Gomez preached the first sermon, focusing on the God's call for the parish to "redeem that little part of the world we live in." Wolfe) said earlier: Schism is not something that comes into being by a legal declaration. After ten years of pastoral service, he was appointed by Fr. I'm not there often just because of distance and time of day on my bike. I like Rad Trad would like to say more but in Justice I can not. St. Catharines, ON Dear Alarico, What went on at Fisher Moore College is not known. I wish I could make your comment flash in bright colors. Getting information out of Poland was very difficult for a long time. . Father has done a 180 degree turn since his days in Kansas City, where I also was. Little Rock, AR In the event that a request were made in the future, the present restrictions on Father Sagutos ministry could only be lifted after our normal review process, which would have to include a recommendation from the Ministerial Review Board of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, Archbishop Hebda added. I think some charity is in order here. I think they wanted an experienced priest to help Fr. Just because theyre traditional in teaching and praxis doesnt mean theyll always be prudent in every respect. We have not yet seen Justice in the Fisher Moore College scandal. This is a good and reasonable rule for the protection of minors and avoiding issues (if . Your charge of detraction and extreme lack of charity are baseless and are based on your feelings not on objective reality. While every home has its own mix of dysfunction, the anger and frustration displayed by those raised in more dysfunctional ones reveals this innate sense of what was to be expected. It was taking the faith seriously that led me to become sedevacantist and it is taking the faith seriously, that my family is going to hell (literally) which led me to break contact with them (as Jesus Christ directs us to do see Matt 18). Please allow us and them to listen to you. radtrad, It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. Scranton, PA Harrisburg, PA Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. Just one full-communion Catholic educational environment where debate over the impact and soundness of a monumentally disruptive 50 year old council might take place? BTW, thanks for the link to the tradcatknight. but they have an interesting video which I have linked to several times (not sure anyone has watched it), but they make a point re: +Wmson thinking that Ratzinger is a good person. In our troubled times, make it a personal initiative through Advent (and perhaps beyond) to invoke the Holy Ghost daily, that He indeed stirs up this treasure-chest of graces we hold within ourselves and our families. So if, in responding to you here, anything comes off that way- know its not intentional. This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. Ad Orientem: Why is the Mass Celebrated Facing East? Athanasius Schneider, Bp. Domus Generalis FSSP - Chemin du Schoenberg 8 - CH-1700 Fribourg (Suisse) . I understand there is a diabolical disorientation going on, which is difficult for many priests to recover from, but devotion to the divine mercy chaplet only exacerbates the disorientation, I have noted. Please keep in mind that I am speaking only for myself. (Remember, divine mercy had been condemned 3 times.) Paul has been designing and carving ecclesiastical interiors for the past several years. Voris and Fisher more college are just the latest in a long line of horrors. Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? A couple of years ago, I heard a solid Catholic treatment of the Holy Trinity which, in a side note, mentioned that as wonderful as this film is, the part in which the saint explains the Trinity must be ignored. That neighbor would include jews, mohammedans, shintoists, hindus, etc. This is, however, a multi-edged sword. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. One of the greatest problems facing Catholics who are trying to understand the crisis is a lack of distinctions and a lack of proper definitions. Many Catholics, most Catholics, in fact, dont really know very much at all, if anything, about this group which has been around in one form or another since 1988, as one way of counting The Society came about in response, reaction to the overall weakening of the Church and many of Her leaders, which has been an ongoing process since the 1960s. Most professed Novus Ordites and, indeed, any who recognise in a Heresiarch a pope, live in a sort of miasma where evidence does not rule the position, the position rules the evidence. Unfortunately Voris has much in common with the SSPX in this way. http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1973-new-from-remnant-tv-a-ceasefire-the-fssp-vs-the-sspx Nevertheless, I address you here not out of disrespect, but simply because the sedevacantist position is almost always inaccurately sketched out and characterized here & elsewhere. There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. Church. There are some whose position gives them the duty to point out faults. ****** Confraternity of Saint Peter. Im curious as to why hes no longer in charge (though im not surprised). What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. Is there no one out there who can challenge poikolby and rich, and others here who detract from the reputations of these men, and from the reputation of the FSSP but me? Edmund Campion dressed up as a jeweler to avoid arrest. This is at the 4 minute mark in the video. Chesapeake, VA Liturgical Guides to the Seasons **********Breaking News********** EVANSVILLE. 1st group attend the new mass at local parishes this ranges from sunday catholics too conservative and everything in between can comprise of people who dont make good use of the sacraments to parish council types , eucharistic ministers etc. In exercising one of mine here, it must be said that the Dimond Bros. teach against several Sent.certa teachings of Holy Mother Church. Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. From the Desk of Canon Olivier Meney, ICRSS 2nd group those that attend TLM this can range from someone who may attend a weekday TLM or sunday TLM but who still likes to be involved with their local parish and who sees no problem with new mass. Nicholson) with the SSPX marks him out as, Im afraid, something of a fanatic. I know that you ask in sincerity, Ive read you for some time & admire you. This cannot become ho-hum, but we know there is always a danger of that, or getting stuck in a rut. I love the Saint so much. Denton, NE (Seminary) I have spoken to/communicated with exactly two FSSP priests in my life. This detraction and extreme lack of charity to say nothing about factual errors has got to be challenged. This is what michael voris used to say Fresno, CA Detraction is a sin where one reveals the true and secret fault of another without a good reason. Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. To spread this kind of crap (totally unsubstantiated) around for thousands to read is sinful. Adam and Eve tried to steal a glimpse of something they should not have, to put themselves in a position of control they could not have, and that is why faith was so insisted upon by our Lord throughout the Gospel. Naples, FL If I do, in fact, belong to an exclusive club, I would hope it would be as a Catholic faithful who adheres to the unchanging tenets of the Catholic Church as Christ established it. I am so sorry that this has been your lot, its heart rending. All rights reserved. Voris goes into yet another rant about the SSPX being in schism that is so lacking in plausibility that even Karl Keating took to his own blog to criticize it! http://youtu.be/S_vwwajyASI. Interesting insight. Lastly, my contact confirmed that indeed something in 2012 caused Fr. One single Traditional Catholic College in the whole United States operating with the approval of the local ordinary was just too much to ask. I wouldnt be half surprised if he granted faculties to the Dali Lamma. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. The FSSP constitutions in 2003 bound the FSSP to the document that contains lies and heresy. I know one FSSP priest ONE that has publicly said the SSPX is not in schism. Voris has so applied his intellect. Thank you, john6. I, too, had learned much from Fr. We do need to know who we can trust and who we cannot. Priest Training Workshops 2:00pm Keynote Speaker - Jeffrey Ostrowski. I do not understand the connection and would like to understand. As I am not a malicious person, I suppose I will simply be ignorant in the public eye now. Problem sorted. Whether you believe the Pope IS the Pope (but in grave error and behaving as a Heretic) or the Pope IS NOT the Pope (for the same reasons), the fact remains that we are all suffering Catholics, striving to restore what is birthright membership through Baptism in the True Church of Christthe Holy, Roman Catholic Church. me) Die for Him? [Jesus: The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. These latest round of attacks is the fruit of Father Wolfes influence that is a manifestly provable fact. The 1974 Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre makes clear where the SSPX stands: This argument is fair enough; objective reality isnt subject to legal pronouncements. Barbara, (Mt 16:15) There is only one correct answer to this question, upon which is built the entire deposit of Faith. There are some very holy FSSP priests who truly care about the souls of their parishioners. The good taste and good judgement of this project is thanks to the pastor, Fr. Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. First and foremost, however, one must be willing to take a good hard look at the conciliar texts and the new Mass and apply ones intellect as informed by faith. Dear Scott, Mr. Matt also says that St. Thank you Barbara! https://akacatholic.com/providential-propers/#comments In reality, it is far more likely the case that it was used with permission, tacit or otherwise, thanks perhaps to Terry Carroll and his Mater Dei connection. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. Also, the cardinal mentioned Fr. ***That said, this includes those who wish to be Catholic. I know a fair number of Fraternity priests, and they are among the finest priests I have ever met. We are all fighting for the faith in one way or another. Whatever happens in October affects not Holy Mother Church. It comes through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts. Saguto FSSP arrives in Seattle the week of October 1st and will begin offering Mass at St. Joseph Chapel (located in the Josephinum) until a more permanent location is found. And to do it using the lame excuse that one is trying to speak the truth and warn others is to be blind to ones true motives. Father Josef Bisig. We start to get sloppy; our fallen tendency to search out the path of least resistance becomes more insistent. From one not typical traditionalist to another (Im a sedevacantist, you know that radioactive, flea-bitten & lice infested group rejected by all,) I agree with lots of what you say. 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We would like to express our deepest gratitude to Fr. We are semi-contemplative Marian Sisters, which means that, while we pray the full Divine Office in common and have 1-1/2 hour of mental prayer each day, we also . As for the suggestion that the SSPX simply left the Church by holding fast to the true faith, even as her aforementioned weak and corrupt leaders abandoned it, is idiotic even for him. A suggested donation for the Nigerian apostolate is $10.00 per scapular. Another is the fallen-nature blindness that affects us all and inclines us to take for granted things that we are used to: be it a spouse, family, friends, health, employment, position, or other things. There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. INTROIT "Gaudeamus" Score Sung without organ accompaniment by men only Conductor: Jeff Ostrowski To access the rehearsal files, go HEREand scroll down to 31 May. But they didnt. Do they care? Mater Dei Catholic Parish 2030 East State Highway 356 Irving, TX 75060 Phone: (972) 438-7600 Email: - info@materdeiparish.com I hope for the sake of the salvation of souls and the good of the Church that the whole story is known. I think, as does Michael Matt, that the FSSP priests each have their own reasons for their actions in these dangerous times as they attempt to carry out their duties of saving souls. Dear piokolby, Catholic families (WITH CHILDREN) have broken up because the FSSP Priest told Catholics they were not licitly married because they were married by a SSPX Priest. The time and place has to be taken into consideration as well. UPDATE: Having just received a message from a friend on the ground, Im happy to clarify that Fr. In a Nov. 15 statement, Archbishop Bernard Hebda said the recall of Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, "was taken in response to an issue that had surfaced in trauma counseling undertaken voluntarily by Father Saguto and brought by him to the attention of his superiors. Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? This is the depths to which mens minds can sink when they are not moored to the pursuit of truth. Fr. Join Fr. Good people do not go along w/heresy. Quincy, IL If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. Priest: Fr Gerard Saguto FSSP. Fortunately, I have read my way to excellent sites such as this one, if only by the grace of Almighty God. I love piokolby and others here enough to point out that they may be sinning themselves by their polemics and lack of prudent speech. 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. But then again, Sister Lucia warned us; didnt she-? I must admit, I am not a typical traditionalist but have read my way through hours of debate over the defense of tradition and have come across many resources, such as this forum, that have given me a formation that I wouldnt have guessed having even just 5 years ago while still assuming that I am even to this day light years away. God. The archbishops statement was read at All Saints Masses the weekend of Nov. 9-10. Those who favour the Society of St. Pius X will not change their minds. But thats definitely not the position of the SSPX. FSSP NA on YouTube The accusation that I luv those who want to destroy the Church is an obfuscation. You are remeniscent of the UBS Executive in the Classic Satire, Network, having turned Michael Voris into Howard Beale and all the Innanity which followed. Regarding group #5, you said 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. dear salvemur, The schismatic Orthodox bishops and priests are validly ordained too. First of all everything said about Fr. Philadelphia, PA Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, As , albeit indirectly, pointed out in a discussion with my2cents below, trads have 2 things in common: they love the so called latin mass & they revile sedevacantists. This has happened more than once in America. Who do you say that I am? The Church is a home, and that is because it begins with a Person, Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. Fort Myers, FL So whats the opposite of human respect, piety? There is only the fact that a full, more perfect communion is lacking a fuller communion, because communion does exist. It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. There is, in any event, no SSPX or sedevacantist chapel within easy driving distance of me even if I wanted to go. Seattle, WA I still hadnt found out who Fr. It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. But this is a rabbit hole I dont want to take the conversation down.). Qubec, QC While the subjective options of Priests and the subjective problems of are friends are real and important the real questions are one of doctrine,principle and new mass. But for the Presidents creativity, the College would have failed two years before it did. Nevertheless, his blog, writing style, and persona seemed to be totally different to me from that day forward. Hopefully, if they no longer agree with the direction of the SSPX they havent remained to poison the well as it were. Fr. Of course not. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/truth-about-the-sspx-mc-similar-groups/#.VfzYaN9VhBc. ARCHDIOCESE OF ST. PAUL & MPLS. That doesnt make them schismatic; rather, it makes the pope guilty of abusing his authority. MEMORIALS. We can end the discussion on this subject . Without Me, you can do nothing (Jn. Any insight you can give regarding this reaction will be appreciated. I want news I can use, and information about my beloved Church that either furthers my knowledge about her, or warns me about those who want to destroy her. The root of this schismatic act can be discerned in an incomplete and contradictory notion of Tradition. Saskatoon, SK The Society is not in an irregular canonical status that is a made-up term by SSPX supporters. These Catholics focus heavily & almost continually on Bergoglio-who is not the problem. The glad tidings of Christmas should be obvious to anyone who believes. North American Martyrs Parish is a Roman Catholic parish in Edmonds, Washington, served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). But if the situation is such that no connection whatsoever with the rest of the Church can be justified, then what you really have to be advocating is full-blown sedevacantism. No need to be so defensive i wrote a short paragraph to explain things to people who read the blog and comments. Hes been reassigned to be the parochial vicar at St. Joseph, the FSSP parish in Tyler, Texas. Sunday 22nd October. He's one of the FSSP priests in my neck of the woods! Saguto? Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html. SOLEMNMASS Fr. 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